This is a green real curly variety. Great for juicing will not only as easy as others. Takes about 60 days. And has around 200 seeds in a pack...some say. That that the native Eskimo in Russia grow kale. To pasture there reindeer don't no if that is a fact.. But one thing is for sure all kale is very cold tolerant. Like you can dig snow and have fresh salad type of tolerant. If you like greens. Or your folks that get your csa shares do grow some. Will make excellant juice. Happy growing!!!